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Nick: N.E. Brigand (Registered User)
Date/Time: Thu, 1/6/2005 at 19:13 EDT (Thu, 1/6/2005 at 18:13 EST)
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In Reply To: Very nice - some thoughts of mine  <squire >  [1/6/2005 @ 2:00]  (5/24)
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I had the same question.
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I'd only skimmed the HoME, but listening to Scull I had the feeling that most of what she was saying was already noted in those books.  Still it was a fascinating talk, a good distillation, at least, of key points in the LotR's development, and much of the information was clearly new to a good chunk of the audience.

This brings up the subject of the audience for, and the development of, Tolkien criticism.  Does the large audience for literary analysis of Tolkien's work, broader certainly than for many other authors, assist Tolkien scholarship by bringing more minds to the subject (several presenters at the Marquette conference did not have a literatary or linguistic background, not necessarily to their detriment, as for example one paper by a chemistry professor was far more coherent than one by an English professor) or impede scholarship by forcing scholars to talk down to reach the interested audience?

There were many levels of expertise on view at the conference, I think among the presenters as well as the audience.  I wondered sometimes what the presenters themselves thought of their colleagues, and whether what seemed insightful to me was old news to them.  For example, I've not read Carpenter's Tolkien biography, and I skimmed the relevant passage in The Annotated Hobbit, so when a presenter talked about Tolkien's early unwritten "Bill Stickers / Major Road Ahead" stories for his children, I was quite amused by what many people already knew.  (And sometimes even I noticed a mistake being made at the lectern (eg. Gloin wasn't the only descendant of Durin in Thorin's party to survive until Aragorn's coronation, Frodo didn't just change places with Arwen to get his trip overseas, and pronunciations were all over the map) though not by Scull.)

Additionally I wonder about two other aspects of the fan interest in Tolkien scholarship:

1.  Does it keep Tolkien scholarship out of the mainstream of literary scholarship and thus away from the proper peer-review rigor that such scholarship is supposed to endure (and not being any sort of trained scholar, I'll gladly listen to corrections or sniggers from those in the know)?

2.  Does it mean that good scholarly work is being done in non-standard and little-seen situations, and thus being needlessly repeated or even not at all adding toward an accumulating, accepted body of scholarship?

As an example of the second point, I have written several times that to my eyes, some material in the Reading Room is as good or better than some published material that I've read on Tolkien or heard at the conference.  Take Curious' comments on the similarities and differences of Bilbo and Gollum in the original and revised versions of The Hobbit, which seems like good, new scholarship (if not a full paper, then much more than a footnote).  But is it?  How can one check?  And does it matter?  (I write this with the understanding that my specific example, TOR.n's discussion boards, are understood by its users to be transitory in nature--they just happen to be the amateur Tolkien scholarship that I know best.  But surely the point holds.)

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