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Nick:	Kimi (Forum Admin)
Date/Time:	Thu, 12/2/2004 at 20:35 EDT (Fri, 12/3/2004 at 13:35 NZDT)
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In Reply To:	Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance <Penthe> [12/2/2004 @ 20:14] (1/6)
Subject:	And Auckland's:
Message:
Penthe, I'm not sure if you said quite what you intended with "Australia is renowned ... while losing (proportionally) less men even than New Zealand." New Zealand has the sad claim to "fame" of having lost more men per capita than almost all the nations it's fought alongside in all wars since the South African War of 1899-1902 (four times Australia's in WWII, for example). Sadly, it's not hard to have done better than us regarding casualties. Many Kiwi soldiers returning from WWI and (to a slightly lesser extent) WWII spoke of the lack of comprehension or even interest in their experiences in those unimaginably distant places. Part of my garden _____________________________________________ The Passing of Mistress Rose Do we find happiness so often that we should turn it off the box when it happens to sit there? - A Room With a View
Link:	Auckland War Memorial

Message Thread:

Marquette Conference Discussion--John Garth #1: Frodo and the Great War <galadhremmin> [11/30/2004 @ 3:02] (8/56)

but Frodo is not honored like traditional heros... <nefisa3> [12/2/2004 @ 2:04] (2/11)

A timely article on WWI memorials. <N.E. Brigand> [12/3/2004 @ 13:53] (0/0)
Our local WWI memorial: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [12/2/2004 @ 11:25] (2/9)

in Canada <L�thien_Rising> [12/3/2004 @ 15:13] (1/1)

The U.S. was there a short time <Curious> [12/3/2004 @ 17:13] (0/0)

Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance <Penthe> [12/2/2004 @ 20:14] (1/6)

And Auckland's: <Kimi> [12/2/2004 @ 20:35] (1/5)

New Zealand <Penthe> [12/2/2004 @ 21:01] (2/4)

i think you've summed up better what i was trying to say... <nefisa3> [12/3/2004 @ 1:03] (2/2)

an excellent point (No Text) <L�thien_Rising> [12/3/2004 @ 15:15] (0/0)
Yup (No Text) <Penthe> [12/3/2004 @ 1:16] (0/0)

No need <Kimi> [12/2/2004 @ 21:28] (0/0)

interesrting!!(spontaneous thoughts) <Galadriel1a> [11/30/2004 @ 19:06] (0/0)
hope on trial <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30/2004 @ 12:30] (1/1)

Tolkien did not despair. <Curious> [11/30/2004 @ 13:07] (0/0)

Thank you - a topic dear to my heart <well he's back> [11/30/2004 @ 11:03] (0/0)
Heroes <drogo_drogo> [11/30/2004 @ 10:04] (2/26)

About� T.E. Lawrence <Silent _ Watcher> [11/30/2004 @ 13:29] (1/2)

"Beat him." <N.E. Brigand> [11/30/2004 @ 14:04] (1/1)

yes, what happens in Derrera and Cirith <nefisa3> [12/2/2004 @ 1:54] (0/0)

Sam is unduly modest. <Curious> [11/30/2004 @ 12:23] (1/22)

so how do you interpret Gandalf's comment? <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30/2004 @ 12:34] (1/21)

Frodo isn't the strongest or <Curious> [11/30/2004 @ 12:55] (2/20)

*sobs* <Ascarwen> [12/6/2004 @ 14:13] (1/1)

Pssst! <Advising Elf> [12/7/2004 @ 10:01] (0/0)

Frodo: "everyman" or saint? <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30/2004 @ 22:33] (2/17)

The potential for sainthood <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 6:59] (0/0)
You took the words... <Modtheow> [12/1/2004 @ 1:25] (2/15)

psst <L�thien_Rising> [12/1/2004 @ 11:54] (0/0)
"Saintly" Everyman <drogo_drogo> [12/1/2004 @ 7:56] (1/13)

Saints are mortal. <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 8:05] (2/12)

no one could do better but <Entwife Wandlimb> [12/1/2004 @ 11:11] (1/2)

Moses is a great example. <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 11:25] (1/1)

Moses <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 12:31] (0/0)

Technically, he's not <Entmaiden> [12/1/2004 @ 10:20] (1/8)

Technically, schmechnically. <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 10:58] (2/7)

I'm not sure Tolkien would agree <Entmaiden> [12/1/2004 @ 12:46] (1/4)

"Sanctified" <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 12:57] (1/3)

Saint-like <drogo_drogo> [12/1/2004 @ 18:36] (1/2)

Angelic <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 18:55] (1/1)

Angel in Man's body <drogo_drogo> [12/1/2004 @ 20:13] (0/0)

Frodo's "sanctification" <Modtheow> [12/1/2004 @ 11:31] (1/1)

Very apt! <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 11:57] (0/0)

It wasn't just the War that inspired Tolkien <squire > [11/30/2004 @ 9:34] (2/2)

yes, but the war is probably what caused... <nefisa3> [12/2/2004 @ 2:09] (0/0)
I agree <Erestor Arcamen> [12/1/2004 @ 19:34] (0/0)

LotR is like and unlike WWI. <Curious> [11/30/2004 @ 8:52] (2/8)

Reception of returning veterans <linkinparkelf> [12/1/2004 @ 3:52] (2/6)

There's a difference between <L�thien_Rising> [12/1/2004 @ 11:53] (1/1)

Goodbye to All That <FarFromHome> [12/1/2004 @ 12:51] (0/0)

Frodo's companions <Curious> [12/1/2004 @ 6:54] (1/3)

Battle of Bywater vs. Mordor <Modtheow> [12/1/2004 @ 11:56] (2/2)

True <drogo_drogo> [12/1/2004 @ 20:23] (0/0)
I think that's consistent with Tolkien's (or Frodo's) view of the Shire, <Entmaiden> [12/1/2004 @ 12:56] (0/0)

perhaps you might say <L�thien_Rising> [11/30/2004 @ 10:41] (0/0)

Enjoyment? Yes <Penthe> [11/30/2004 @ 5:43] (0/0)

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