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Nick:	Curious (Registered User)
Date/Time:	Fri, 11/19/2004 at 15:23 EDT (Fri, 11/19/2004 at 13:23 CST)
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In Reply To:	Oh Curious! I love it when you call me mad! :-) <Modtheow> [11/19/2004 @ 14:25] (1/18)
Subject:	What of his love of myth
Message:
or Fairie then? What of his desire to write a myth for England? What of his claim that he primarily wrote to entertain? What of his confession that he simply enjoyed the game of creating a fantasy world? What of his experience in World War I? What of his love of history, "real or feigned"? Tolkien had many passions in his life. I hesitate to call any one of them the "ruling" passion, and apparently you do to. Perhaps we agree. �I dislike Allegory - the conscious and intentional allegory - yet any attempt to explain the purport of myth or fairytale must use allegorical language. (And, of course, the more 'life' a story has the more readily will it be susceptible of allegorical interpretations: while the better a deliberate allegory is made the more nearly will it be acceptable just as a story.)� (From Tolkien Letter # 131.) Tips for posting in the Reading Room.

Message Thread:

Marquette Report: Tom Shippey (long) <L�thien_Rising> [11/15/2004 @ 20:46] (13/75)

Last words <L�thien_Rising> [11/21/2004 @ 12:43] (0/0)
Tolkien:� 15,000+ words <N.E. Brigand> [11/20/2004 @ 19:04] (0/0)
While I enjoy Shippey's perspective, <Curious> [11/18/2004 @ 13:05] (3/39)

What is "philology," anyway? <N.E. Brigand> [11/19/2004 @ 17:18] (1/13)

The study of ancient languages: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [11/19/2004 @ 18:49] (1/12)

Thanks! <N.E. Brigand> [11/19/2004 @ 19:28] (3/11)

in one or two paragraphs? <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 11:48] (1/4)

Perhaps philology <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 12:27] (1/3)

yes, I think so <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 15:33] (2/2)

C.S. Lewis <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 18:20] (0/0)
Or you could <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 17:46] (0/0)

And here: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [11/20/2004 @ 14:39] (0/0)
Here: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [11/20/2004 @ 14:36] (1/4)

"knowledge about either langage or langues has been effectively excluded from the American educational system for almost a century" <squire > [11/21/2004 @ 2:29] (1/3)

Well, <Curious> [11/21/2004 @ 13:09] (1/2)

uh-huh (No Text) <squire > [11/21/2004 @ 16:14] (1/1)

Woops! <Curious> [11/21/2004 @ 20:54] (0/0)

From what I know... <notlost> [11/19/2004 @ 10:07] (1/1)

I'm sure we have much in common. (No Text) <Curious> [11/19/2004 @ 12:08] (0/0)

not just his day job <Modtheow> [11/19/2004 @ 0:26] (1/22)

As long as we keep it in perspective, <Curious> [11/19/2004 @ 8:12] (1/21)

The issue is not the philological "nature" of the LotR, but the philological origins. <squire > [11/19/2004 @ 10:36] (1/20)

Do I disagree? <Curious> [11/19/2004 @ 12:07] (1/19)

Oh Curious! I love it when you call me mad! :-) <Modtheow> [11/19/2004 @ 14:25] (1/18)

What of his love of myth <Curious> [11/19/2004 @ 15:23] (1/17)

philology is his ruling passion <Modtheow> [11/21/2004 @ 11:35] (1/16)

I prefer <Curious> [11/21/2004 @ 20:54] (1/15)

on this we agree... <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 1:30] (1/14)

I don't <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 8:38] (1/13)

okay <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 10:59] (2/12)

keep it down, please. (No Text) <squire > [11/22/2004 @ 12:20] (1/7)

*throws <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 13:22] (1/6)

*Wakes up* <squire > [11/22/2004 @ 13:51] (2/5)

Isn't that Curious dreaming in your footer? <nerdanel_50> [11/22/2004 @ 16:06] (1/1)

I don't know who he is. <squire > [11/22/2004 @ 16:16] (0/0)

But <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 15:27] (1/2)

That's all just fluff, <squire > [11/22/2004 @ 15:52] (1/1)

*calmly... <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 17:31] (0/0)

If <Curious> [11/22/2004 @ 11:36] (1/3)

oh good! <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 17:33] (1/2)

speaking of good reasons for re-reading ... <L�thien_Rising> [11/22/2004 @ 17:53] (1/1)

yes! <Modtheow> [11/22/2004 @ 18:09] (0/0)

Wonderful, LR! <notlost> [11/18/2004 @ 10:22] (0/0)
*standing ovation* (No Text) <Ascarwen> [11/17/2004 @ 13:00] (0/0)
Wish I'd been there! <squire > [11/16/2004 @ 20:07] (3/4)

leikr, leika, lāc, lācan (warning: dictionary play ahead) <Modtheow> [11/18/2004 @ 23:04] (0/0)
we did too! <L�thien_Rising> [11/17/2004 @ 15:16] (0/0)
A few quick notes. <N.E. Brigand> [11/17/2004 @ 0:32] (1/1)

democracy of philology <L�thien_Rising> [11/17/2004 @ 9:52] (0/0)

Excellent summary! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [11/16/2004 @ 13:55] (0/0)
Thanks for this (No Text) <well he's back> [11/16/2004 @ 12:49] (0/0)
Great recap of a great presentation, L�! <nerdanel_50> [11/16/2004 @ 1:26] (1/1)

And Shippey has noted... <N.E. Brigand> [11/16/2004 @ 12:52] (0/0)

great stuff! - 2 questions <dna> [11/16/2004 @ 0:30] (2/6)

Shakespeare <L�thien_Rising> [11/16/2004 @ 9:18] (1/4)

But, even more fun with Shakespeare is <Elf_Maven> [11/16/2004 @ 12:00] (2/3)

Tolkien is less notable... <N.E. Brigand> [11/16/2004 @ 12:58] (1/1)

Yes, I loved that revelation about "auction"! (No Text) <Elf_Maven> [11/16/2004 @ 15:16] (0/0)

24,000 words <dna> [11/16/2004 @ 12:36] (0/0)

On your first question: <nerdanel_50> [11/16/2004 @ 1:13] (0/0)

Could you expand on that last <Merryk> [11/16/2004 @ 0:10] (1/4)

on the canon <Modtheow> [11/16/2004 @ 0:48] (2/3)

Thank you - that's much clearer <Merryk> [11/16/2004 @ 1:17] (0/0)
Just for the record . . . <nerdanel_50> [11/16/2004 @ 1:04] (1/1)

I totally agree! (No Text) <Modtheow> [11/16/2004 @ 10:03] (0/0)

This makes me wonder <Finding Frodo> [11/15/2004 @ 23:16] (0/0)
Ooo! Really? Degustation? <Elf_Maven> [11/15/2004 @ 23:09] (1/8)

I think he was poking fun at himself <Entmaiden> [11/15/2004 @ 23:58] (2/7)

My impression was <nerdanel_50> [11/16/2004 @ 1:20] (2/5)

Actually my notes... <N.E. Brigand> [11/16/2004 @ 17:56] (1/1)

no, you might be right (No Text) <L�thien_Rising> [11/16/2004 @ 18:03] (0/0)

you mean it wasn't that <L�thien_Rising> [11/16/2004 @ 9:15] (1/2)

Right, Miss IsatinthelobbywithTomShippeyuntil2am <Entmaiden> [11/16/2004 @ 17:09] (1/1)

That wasn't me! <L�thien_Rising> [11/16/2004 @ 17:31] (0/0)

But I bet the laugh was from <Elf_Maven> [11/16/2004 @ 1:11] (0/0)

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