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Nick:	Modtheow (Registered User)
Date/Time:	Mon, 10/18/2004 at 15:59 EDT (Mon, 10/18/2004 at 16:59 ADT)
Browser/OS:	Microsoft Internet Explorer V5.0 using Windows 98
In Reply To:	Beor-Beorn-Beorhtnoth <an seileachan> [10/15/2004 @ 6:58] (2/4)
Subject:	beorn and beorht
Message:
The Old English word "beorn" (warrior, man) does not come from the same root as "beorht" (bright, shining). "Beorn" is an interesting word, though. According to the little book of Old English vocabulary that I have with me at the moment, "beorn" is a word that is found only in Old English poetry. Here is the full entry for "beorn": beorn, "warrior, man, hero" Beorn may be etymologically related to bearn "child, son," with which it is easily confused in any case, or it may be a poetic metaphor whose original sense, "bear," was lost. The phonetically corresponding Icelandic word means "bear" exclusively. (The Old English Dictionary observes that Old English eofor "boar" has an Icelandic cognate which means "warrior, man" exclusively.) Beorn is found only in poetry..." from: Word-Hoard: An Introduction to Old English Vocabulary by Stephen A. Barney. I don't know if this clarifies or complicates anything, but there you are. *Frodo rents a DVD* "Hey, this Elijah guy is pretty good!"

Message Thread:

Sil Discussion: Of the Coming of Men � Part 4: Etymologies <eowyn_rohan> [10/14/2004 @ 13:55] (4/29)

Pparently Beor is a name found in the Bible . . . <Pukel-man> [10/15/2004 @ 8:13] (1/2)

Make that 'apparently'. (No Text) <Pukel-man> [10/15/2004 @ 8:14] (1/1)

Pppropriate correction <White Gull> [10/15/2004 @ 21:26] (0/0)

Beor-Beorn-Beorhtnoth <an seileachan> [10/15/2004 @ 6:58] (2/4)

beorn and beorht <Modtheow> [10/18/2004 @ 15:59] (0/0)
Beorhtnoth . . . <Pukel-man> [10/15/2004 @ 8:04] (2/2)

what makes you think I know what I was asking? <an seileachan> [10/15/2004 @ 21:04] (0/0)
'-noth' meaning 'courage'; hence 'Bright-courage'. (No Text) <Pukel-man> [10/15/2004 @ 8:16] (0/0)

Beor and Beorn <drogo_drogo> [10/14/2004 @ 18:06] (0/0)
Haladin == Saladin? <Bythedar> [10/14/2004 @ 14:13] (1/19)

Hmmm, I don't think Tolkien would play on an Arabic name <drogo_drogo> [10/14/2004 @ 17:57] (2/18)

Although Tom Shippey... <N.E. Brigand> [10/14/2004 @ 20:59] (1/1)

Irrelevant CS Lewis link <Penthe> [10/14/2004 @ 21:11] (0/0)

H to S <Kimi> [10/14/2004 @ 18:35] (1/15)

Interesting <drogo_drogo> [10/14/2004 @ 18:48] (2/14)

Morpheme & phoneme fun! <Penthe> [10/14/2004 @ 19:18] (1/11)

*sticks in pointy-head* <jordan_the_discursive> [10/15/2004 @ 14:31] (3/10)

"Elfs?" <N.E. Brigand> [10/17/2004 @ 15:53] (1/5)

And here we have <jordan_the_discursive> [10/18/2004 @ 11:56] (1/4)

Do come again. <N.E. Brigand> [10/18/2004 @ 16:48] (1/3)

'do come again' and 'tiffs' <Penthe> [10/19/2004 @ 0:00] (2/2)

*finds seat at table* <jordan_the_discursive> [10/19/2004 @ 9:42] (0/0)
*looks up "tiffin"* <L�thien_Rising> [10/19/2004 @ 8:17] (0/0)

Good grief <White Gull> [10/15/2004 @ 21:28] (0/0)
*waits for someone to correct spelling* <L�thien_Rising> [10/15/2004 @ 14:41] (1/2)

Uh-oh, I fear my slip is showing!? <jordan_the_discursive> [10/15/2004 @ 14:53] (1/1)

y'are not! <L�thien_Rising> [10/15/2004 @ 15:06] (0/0)

*Trying to imagine* <Kimi> [10/14/2004 @ 19:03] (1/1)

my cat can tell you... she's got a burst of hair coming out now :) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [10/14/2004 @ 19:58] (0/0)

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