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Nick: Arquen (Registered User)
Date/Time: Thu, 9/30/2004 at 11:31 EDT (Thu, 9/30/2004 at 7:31 PST)
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Sil-Ch 14. Q7 Girl Talk
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Sil-Ch 14. Q7

Wherein we overhear a bit of gossip, and find out there's more than meets the eye to this.

Now while the city of Gondolin was building in secret, Finrod Felagund wrought in the deep places of Nargothrond; but Galadriel his sister dwelt, as has been told, in Thingol's realm in Doriath. And at times Melian and Galadriel would speak together of Valinor and the bliss of old; but beyond the dark hour of the death of the Trees Galadriel would not go, but ever fell silent. And on a time Melian said: 'There is some woe that lies upon you and your kin. That I can see in you, but all else is hidden from me; for by no vision or thought can I perceive anything that passed or passes in the West: a shadow lies over all the land of Aman, and reaches far out over the sea. Why will you not tell me more?'
'For that woe is past,' said Galadriel; 'and I would take what joy is here left, untroubled by memory. And maybe there is woe enough yet to come, though still hope may seem bright.'


Can you guess what G. was really after, hanging around Melian?     Virtual beer to first correct answer.

Funny that in 300 years G. never gossiped with the girls about the trip over from Valinor.  Amazing restraint? Stiff-necked Noldor? Worried about Thingol's reaction if the truth got out?

Then Melian looked in her eyes, and said: 'I believe not that the Noldor came forth as messengers of the Valar, as was said at first: not though they came in the very hour of our need. For they speak never of the Valar, nor have their high lords brought any message to Thingol, whether from Manwë, or Ulmo, or even from Olwë the King's brother, and his own folk that went over the sea. For what cause, Galadriel, were the high people of the Noldor driven forth as exiles from Aman? Or what evil lies on the sons of Fëanor that they are so haughty and so fell? Do I not strike near the truth?'
"Near,' said Galadriel; 'save that we were not driven forth, but came of our own will, and against that of the Valar. And through great peril and in despite of the Valar for this purpose we came: to take vengeance upon Morgoth, and regain what he stole.'
Then Galadriel spoke to Melian of the Silmarils, and of the slaying of King Finwë at Formenos: but still she said no word of the Oath, nor of the Kinslaying, nor of the burning of the ships at Losgar. But Melian said: 'Now much you tell me, and yet more I perceive. A darkness you would cast over the long road from Tirion, but I see evil there, which Thingol should learn for his guidance.'
'Maybe,' said Galadriel; 'but not of me.'


Melian is puzzled, but smart enough to detect the curious lack of information about the trip.  G. is clearly now protecting her kin, evidently considers her loyalty to the Noldor more important than being up-front with an ally.  Or is she reluctant to lose Melian's friendship? What is going on here?

Despite the Valar?  is that all? What about her wishing to rule her own realm?
Doesn't covering for Fëanor implicate her?   
Now Melian is aware that there is lots more to the story, and is impelled to seek out more information.

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