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Nick: Penthe (Registered User)
Date/Time: Thu, 9/2/2004 at 23:36 EDT (Fri, 9/3/2004 at 13:36 EAST)
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In Reply To: Thanks, I completely missed  <Curious>  [9/2/2004 @ 6:42]  (2/8)
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Freud, girl-monsters and boy-monsters
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I rather think that Tolkien never deliberately tried to imply anything Freudian. But then, who does? I'm not a huge fan of psychoanalytical criticism as a general rule, but sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar. And sometimes a ravening, lustful female monster is not just a monster. (I always enjoy the Freudian reading of the final bombing sequence of Star Wars - especially the dialogue).

Perhaps Melkor decided to create only boy-monsters after dealing with Ungoliant because he thought they would be easier to control, or influence. Of course, he didn't create Ungoliant entirely. Maybe we could read it as saying that Melkor could create masculine monsters entirely from within himself, or from inanimate material, but could only create feminine monsters from something that was already intrinsically female? The implications, I guess, would be that the feminine is more frightening because it is even more alien, to both the other villains and to the heroes. Perhaps this could be why the glass from Galadriel (who was a girl last time I looked) was more effective in frightening away Shelob than it was in the Cracks of Doom.

This would be a neat internal logic reason for why there are so few female villains in M-e (both from a story perspective and a critical/text perspective).

Thanks for inspiring some more wild speculation, Curious. Your posts always make me think harder, which is a real gift (and not in a pragmatic sense, but in a generous and spiritual sense ;-)

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