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Nick: Liath (Registered User)
Date/Time: Mon, 8/2/2004 at 14:18 EDT (Mon, 8/2/2004 at 20:18 CEST)
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In Reply To: How far was Tolkien informed by druid culture?  <Liath>  [7/31/2004 @ 11:11]  (5/27)
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Well, I was more thinking of Frodo's inner journey
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OK, good point about the historical accuracy of druid rituals. Although if JRR Tolkien could create a mythical history, why shouldn't Graves create a similar poetic world?

And the Ents were for all trees, not only sacred oaks. Found some scathing early Christian comments telling new Christians how blasphemous it was of them to worship at sacred oak groves; because what would happen to them if they were cut down? Roman legions did cut them down to demonstrate their ascendancy. Not very Ent-friendly!

But what interested me about that was that while Frodo seems very passive, and all you hear of him is from others, internally he has a lot going on, and that his journey is more spiritual than real in many senses. And this shows much more in the book than in the films. His visionary dreams, his writing, his travelling from the Grey Havens in the end; these all seem to indicate his awareness of another level beyond Middle-earth. Summoned, as with Bombadil, by incantations, evoked by Elvish song, and this seemed to have a bardic element, as does his indifference to his own worldly safety.
Michael Swanwick speculated that Gollum & Sam were in fact two aspects of Frodo, the Good & the Bad, & that seems a valid reading to me.

"Cicero remarks on the existence among the Gauls of augurs or soothsayers, known by the name of Druids; he had made the acquaintance of one Divitiacus, an Aeduan. Diodorus informs us that a sacrifice acceptable to the gods must be attended by a Druid, for they are the intermediaries. Before a battle they often throw themselves between two armies to bring about peace."

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