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Nick: Orald (Registered User)
Date/Time: Fri, 7/16/2004 at 10:26 EDT
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In Reply To: *tiptoes in*  <Roheryn>  [7/16/2004 @ 1:45]  (2/2)
Subject:
True shape of the Ainur
Message:

"I've always figured their true essence is sort of amorphously blob-like.  Kind of like an amoeba.  Isn't that how spirits are shaped?  Given their power, though, they can make themselve appear beautiful and majestic, but underneath it all, they're still rather amoebic."

Later on, in the chapter "Of the Sun and Moon", we will meet Arien the Maia who is chosen to steer the sun. Tolkien writes:

"Too bright were the eyes of Arien for even the Eldar to look on, and leaving Valinor she forsook the form and raiment which like the Valar she had worn there, and she was as a naked flame, terrible in the fullness of her splendour."

Now Arien isn't a Vala, but she is an Ainu as they and this specifically says that she was wearing the same type of "raiment" as the Valar. However, when she removes this "form and raiment" she is "as a naked flame".

Surely this doesn't mean she literally appeared as a tongue of flame, but it suggests a specific appearance even without the "raiment".

And yet the Valar were said to be invisible when they doffed their raiments. Can they choose to make their true forms visible without clothing themselves in physicality? Is Arien just so darn fiery that even her 'invisible' form shines through into the visible realm?




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