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Nick: bigidiot (Registered User)
Date/Time: Thu, 7/15/2004 at 20:43 EDT
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In Reply To: Ainulindale #8 Enter Valar  <CelebornsMirror>  [7/15/2004 @ 17:05]  (11/26)
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superhuman but not gigantic
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1. My conception is that just as the valar's ethereal vision becomes physical through Illuvatar's extertion, the clothes the valar think becomes physical through the same power....but it's like a little bit of that creative power has been given to each valar enough so that they can physically manifest something minor like their clothes.

2. I picture them each quite different.  Tulkas looks like Hercules or something.  Manwe is all ghostly, made of like mist and billowing white cloud.  My vision of Ulmo is basically made by that great painting I forget who did.  The star one is all robed in darkness but has a bright light shining from her at the same time somehow, maybe a little like Galadriel looks.  Yavanna looks like Poison Ivy from the Batman movie.  They are all about the same proportion as Sauron in the film prologue: superhuman but not gigantic. 

3. I think that Tolkien is trying to emphasize what makes the Valar different from regular creatures.  It's something like the valars spirits are more fundamental than their physical manifestations.

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