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Nick: nerdanel_50 (Registered User)
Date/Time: Wed, 6/16/2004 at 17:19 EDT (Wed, 6/16/2004 at 13:19 PST)
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In Reply To: The Return Journey #5:  The Eagles Have Landed (And I Missed It!)  <Altaira>  [6/15/2004 @ 22:43]  (4/4)
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Eagles and Ents
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1.  Why do you think the Eagles' head Eagle was called "chief"?  Why wouldn't the Eagles stay among the people they've just saved/befriended?  And why do you think the Eagles accepted gifts of gold?

I agree with what others have said about accepting the gift from Dain--Dain is demonstrating that he will not be grasping with the gold and the chief of the eagles is acknowledging that gesture. As to why he is called the "chief", I wonder how much anyone, even Gandalf, knows about eagle society and government? Maybe the use of alternative terms for the leader reflects the vagueness of outsiders' knowledge?

I think the eagles take off because there is no reason for them to hang around. What would they do? Feast with the other four armies? On what? What does one serve at a dinner for men, elves, dwarves, eagles and Beorn? And I doubt they are much into small talk. They could stick around to help rebuild Laketown and Dale, but the eagles generally concern themselves with loftier tasks.

2.  Bilbo's wistful wish to see the Eagles again reminds me very much of something from LotR-I think it's Sam's desire to see the elves again, but it might be Bilbo's own desire to see the misty mountains again-or his desire to see the ring "one last time".   I can't put my finger on it (or my book).  Can anyone find a parallel?

It reminds me of Merry and Pippin's last meeting with Treebeard, although the two incidents are not really parallel. But I think Bilbo would like to say goodbye to these inscrutable forces of nature, and to have them indicate that they noticed and even liked and respected him. Merry and Pippin get that from Treebeard.

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