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Nick: Curious (Registered User)
Date/Time: Wed, 6/2/2004 at 21:19 EDT (Wed, 6/2/2004 at 19:19 CST)
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In Reply To: A Thief in the Night #1: Playing with the Big Boys  <nerdanel_50>  [5/31/2004 @ 12:57]  (9/24)
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This is part of Thorin's transformation.
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We do not have to take the narrator's word for it that Thorin is becoming possessive.  Before laying eyes on the gold he offered Bilbo his pick of the treasure; now (despite the fact that he played no part in killing Smaug) he says he will be avenged on anyone who withholds the Arkenstone.  Thorin is becoming possessive, and threatening his companions, and regardless of his legal rights, possessiveness is a moral failure in Tolkien's world.  I don't think Thorin is swearing a formal oath here, though.


“I dislike Allegory - the conscious and intentional allegory - yet any attempt to explain the purport of myth or fairytale must use allegorical language.  (And, of course, the more 'life' a story has the more readily will it be susceptible of allegorical interpretations: while the better a deliberate allegory is made the more nearly will it be acceptable just as a story.)” (From Tolkien Letter # 131.)

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