pride, heritage and grief

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Nick:	Penthe (Registered User)
Date/Time:	Mon, 5/31/2004 at 20:11 EDT (Tue, 6/1/2004 at 10:11 EAST)
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In Reply To:	oaths <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31/2004 @ 14:38] (1/2)
Subject:	pride, heritage and grief
Message:
I think you're spot on. I think that it is also Thorin's grief at play. He is not only trying to regain his heritage and pride, he's trying to claim back the symbol of his father. He's lost his father and grandfather over and over again, it seems. First, to the Dragon (miraculous recover thanks to back door), then to madness and pursuit of the ring and so on. I know I'm attributing a lot of the LOTR and appendices mythology here, but I do think that Thorin just can't stand to lose this connection to his forefathers again. I suspect he's made the oath because he doesn't really believe any of the Dwarves or Bilbo to have taken it. "...the same behaviour or even the same good can appear distinguished to one person, pretentious to someone else, and cheap or showy to yet another." Bourdieu

Message Thread:

A Thief in the Night #1: Playing with the Big Boys <nerdanel_50> [5/31/2004 @ 12:57] (9/24)

This is part of Thorin's transformation. <Curious> [6/2/2004 @ 21:19] (0/0)
Revenge is a dish best served cold... <Atlas> [6/1/2004 @ 1:41] (0/0)
OT, but inspired by this topic... <Landalay> [5/31/2004 @ 23:50] (1/4)

What, revenge does nothing for you either? ;) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/1/2004 @ 0:17] (2/3)

BTW... <Landalay> [6/1/2004 @ 0:58] (1/1)

thanks... I think ;) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/1/2004 @ 12:06] (0/0)

I liked the adventures <Altaira> [6/1/2004 @ 0:32] (0/0)

Oaths and family jewels <drogo_drogo> [5/31/2004 @ 17:00] (1/1)

Great tie-in <Altaira> [6/1/2004 @ 0:47] (0/0)

oaths <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31/2004 @ 14:38] (1/2)

pride, heritage and grief <Penthe> [5/31/2004 @ 20:11] (1/1)

you're right about the grief <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31/2004 @ 22:37] (0/0)

The value of the Arkenstone <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31/2004 @ 14:14] (2/3)

Rarely do I feel <Merryk> [5/31/2004 @ 23:12] (0/0)
that is wonderful <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31/2004 @ 14:48] (1/1)

thanks, but I think you phrased it well <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31/2004 @ 16:26] (0/0)

Oaths don't care what an oath bearer wants. <hatster> [5/31/2004 @ 14:09] (0/0)
Thorin & Arkenstone <lucia> [5/31/2004 @ 13:26] (1/5)

self-righteous greed <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31/2004 @ 16:22] (2/4)

Great quote from Luke <Penthe> [5/31/2004 @ 20:05] (0/0)
Apt quotations. And now I think I understand <nerdanel_50> [5/31/2004 @ 16:39] (2/2)

Biblo . . . : -) <Daughter of Nienna> [5/31/2004 @ 23:06] (0/0)
Whoops! < :oD (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [5/31/2004 @ 17:32] (0/0)

Oaths <Bythedar> [5/31/2004 @ 13:14] (0/0)

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