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Nick: hatster (Forum Member)
Date/Time: Mon, 5/31/2004 at 14:09 EDT
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In Reply To: A Thief in the Night #1: Playing with the Big Boys  <nerdanel_50>  [5/31/2004 @ 12:57]  (9/24)
Subject:
Oaths don't care what an oath bearer wants.
Message:

I think Thorin is quite aware of the depth of the oath he has taken and while I don't think that had the battle gone differently he would have taken vengence upon Bilbo of his own accord and heart. HOWEVER, Things are never that simple in Tolkien. Depending on how the outcome of the battle was different, (had the battle ended the same way, but with Thorin living) I think he would have forgiven Bilbo, but then by some cruel twist have been forced to harm him. Oaths have a way of taking care of themselves in ME no matter what the heart of the oathbearer may desire.

Greed to the point of insanity brought on the oath. Remembering that, to Thorin, the stone represented not just a beautiful stone, but also a means of ascertaining his title, inheritance and the extent of his own vengence against Smaug. So I think the depth of his need to seek vengence is every bit of that of Fëanor.

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  With thanks to Takeo and the original post in the Reading Room:
By faith, Frodo, son of Drogo, went out, not knowing where he was going.  By faith, he suffered knife, sting, thorn, lash, bite, and a long burden.  By faith, he escaped the edge of the sword, braved the dens of great beasts, performed acts of mercy, quenched the power of fire, and conquered an evil kingdom.  By faith beyond endurance, power was made perfect in his weakness.  

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