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Nick: nerdanel_50 (Registered User)
Date/Time: Mon, 5/31/2004 at 12:57 EDT (Mon, 5/31/2004 at 8:57 PST)
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A Thief in the Night #1: Playing with the Big Boys
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Now the days passed slowly and wearily. Many of the dwarves spent their time piling and ordering the treasure; and now Thorin spoke of the Arkenstone of Thrain, and bade them eagerly to look for it in every corner.
"For the Arkenstone of my father," he said, "is worth more than a river of gold in itself, and to me it is beyond price. That stone of all the treasure I name unto myself, and I will be avenged on anyone who finds it and withholds it."
Bilbo heard these words and he grew afraid, wondering what would happen, if the stone was found--wrapped in an old bundle of tattered oddments that he used as a pillow. All the same he did not speak of it, for as the weariness of the days grew heavier, the beginnings of a plan had come into his little head.

Here is another parallel to Fëanor and the Silmarils. Fëanor and his sons vowed "to pursue with vengeance and hatred to the ends of the World Vala, Demon, Elf or Man as yet unborn, or any creature, great or small, good or evil, that time should bring forth unto the end of days, whoso should hold or take or keep a Silmaril from their possession."

Although less articulate than Fëanor, Thorin, too, has promised vengeance against anyone who withholds the Arkenstone from him. Pronouncements of this sort are a very serious business in Tolkien’s world.

1. Does Thorin appreciate the gravity of what he has just said? Can he be unaware of the history of the Noldorin? Do dwarves take oaths less seriously than other folk in Middle Earth? If events had gone otherwise in the Battle of the Five Armies, would Thorin have sought vengeance from Bilbo?

2. Assuming Thorin's promise is to be taken seriously, is he justified in making it? Fëanor, the greatest artisan in Arda, poured all his creativity into the Silmarils. Thorin's only claim to the Arkenstone is that his forebears "found" it under the Mountain, and had it stolen from them by Smaug. Is anything other than greed operating here?

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