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Nick: Menelwyn (Registered User)
Date/Time: Thu, 4/15/2004 at 18:05 EDT (Thu, 4/15/2004 at 16:05 CST)
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In Reply To: Why did the Elvenking have dungeons?  <Curious>  [4/15/2004 @ 17:01]  (12/32)
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I'll go with the outlaw theory
Message:

You noted several possibilities for outlaws, and I think elves probably take the long view of things.  YOu never know what you're going to need in the next 3000 years, so it's best to have all possibilities covered.  I certainly imagine there were times when the old elven kings of the First Age wanted dungeons (did they have them?  Can't remember.)  There are plenty of people Thingol wouldn't have minded imprisoning.  And in a world where magic is possible, however confident you feel about your magical security, backup plans are probably a good idea.  Also, if you've got somebody you really do need to lock up, you want them locked up, not wandering freely about your halls, even if they can't get out the main doors.

As for Aragorn and Gollum, I can offer theories on that too.  Lorien certainly wouldn't have any of the needed facilities.  It's difficult to have dungeons in trees, especially if the guy you want to imprison is adept at climbing.  And why not the Woodmen?  Because it's easy enough to imagine what they would do with Gollum, but it seems that Gandalf wanted Gollum alive and able to talk.  Taking Gollum to the Woodmen would not really work for that!

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