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Nick: erather (Registered User)
Date/Time: Wed, 3/3/2004 at 21:28 EDT (Wed, 3/3/2004 at 17:28 PST)
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In Reply To: Frodo's Dreams  <Rohwen>  [2/29/2004 @ 13:29]  (5/6)
Subject:
The "grey rain curtain" etc.
Message:

is, as Baggins Babe says, identical to the description of his arrival at Valinor at the end of RotK (book).  Non-readers could be misled by the movie's use of this lovely text to describe the afterlife; Valinor is a very real, physical (though fictional!) place inhabited by living elves and (for a time) at least two live hobbits.  This dream is obviously a forshadowing of Frodo's eventual sailing to Valinor.

The other dream sounds like the Grey Havens.  As lucia mentions, there was a palantir there, but it was only capable of looking West.  The longing for the sea is indeed curious in a hobbit, obviously some more foreshadowing.

A more striking vision occurs to Frodo in Lorien, in Galadriel's mirror.  I'm sure you'll recognize its contents.  What's curious about that vision is it includes things that actually happen but not to Frodo and Sam (or anywhere near them).  It also ends with the voyage to Valinor.

Almost certainly it's the Ring that's enabling these dreams and visions.

sic hobbitur ad astra.
(Entire text of a postcard received by JRRT in 1937, according to Letter #17)

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