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Nick: Narf (Registered User)
Date/Time: Fri, 1/16/2004 at 1:44 EDT (Thu, 1/15/2004 at 21:44 PST)
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In Reply To: Durin’s Folk #26: Dwarf-Women  <Daughter of Nienna>  [1/15/2004 @ 23:29]  (5/15)
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Keeping the home fires burning.
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1. Dwarf Women:  Why did they have so few women? Was it the same in most Dwarf communities?

Maybe that's what happens when amateurs try their hands at creating life. Never send a Vala to do the Eru's job.

2. Only Dwarf-woman Named: Why would only one be named? Why name one at all?

This account is basically a chronicle of war and wandering, which apparently are not activities of Dwarf-women. Dis is probably named to establish Fili and Kili's connection to the royal line.

3. Walk Abroad: Any speculation on why Dwarf-women would seldom walk abroad?

Most of Tolkien's societies seem to adhere to rigid gender roles, with males doing the majority of the warring and conquering and females, with noticeable exceptions, staying behind and weaving. A society with a scarcity of women would have even more reason to want to shield them from harm.

4. Like to the Dwarf-men: "They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the Dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart". Do they disguise themselves as dwarf-men when they travel? Might this be a safety issue?

I hadn't thought about the disguises, but it's a possibility.

5. "It’s the Beards!": Do Dwarf-women have beards? How do you know?

I really don't think Tolkien would give women, even Dwarf-women, beards, but if he did it would be remarkable enough to tell us about. It seems to me that they just don't have any feminine characteristics that would be obvious to Men, who would not necessarily think that all Dwarf-men had beards.

6. Contribute to any Story: What would you like to see Dwarf-women doing in action? What do you think they could contribute to any story?

Dwarf-women could be healers, architects, lore-masters, just about any role other than warrior. Perhaps in the Final Stand of the Dwarves, the Dwarf-women would at last take up arms and go into battle.

7. In Peril: because of the fewness of women among them that the kind of the Dwarves increases slowly, and is in peril when they have not secure dwelling" So how much in peril were Durin’s Folk over the past generations? Was it getting serious? Does that put Thorin’s Quest for Erebor in a new light? Then, they seemed pretty secure at Ered Lhûn. But then, isn’t it a good thing for ME that he did!

Dwarves are constantly in peril.

8. Some Desire None: "For not all the women take husbands: some desire none; some desire one that they cannot get, and so will have no other. As for the men, very many also do not desire marriage, being engrossed in their crafts." No questions: Open for thoughts!

I guess it's a good thing "very many" of the men do not desire marriage, given their demographics. This passage tells us that Dwarves aren't entirely patriarchal. Apparently Dwarf-women cannot be forced to marry against their well. Perhaps they were created to resist domination at least as well as their men.

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