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Nick: drogo_drogo (Registered User)
Date/Time: Mon, 9/15/2003 at 20:25 EDT (Mon, 9/15/2003 at 18:25 CST)
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In Reply To: The Last Debate #2, Elvish Lives! *slap* Okay, sorry, here are the questions  <Kendig>  [9/15/2003 @ 19:18]  (16/30)
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forgotten unions and winning the hearts and minds
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“The History of Galadriel and Celeborn” in the Unfinished Tales gives us a bit of the history of the place and how Elves and Men may have intermingled there.  I may butcher something in trying to summarize, so people please correct me if I mangle something or leave an important detail out. 

Dol Amroth was named for Amroth, former king of Lorien, who journeyed south in search of his beloved Nimrodel who had fled towards Gondor after Sauron appeared in Dol Guldur.  He waited for her at the sea haven of Amroth, launching point for ships heading to the Undying Lands, but was lost at sea and Nimordel and the Elves who came with her were lost in 1981 of the Third Age.  According to legend, though, one of Nimrodel’s companions named Mithrellas married Imrazôr the Númenórean, and their son Galador (born in T.A. 2004) became the first Lord of Dol Amroth.  For more information on this, use the Encyclopedia of Arda link below (there’s lots of hyperlinks to the names of important players in this legend):

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/d/dolamroth.html

It could very well be that this is the true story of the Elven-Human marriage that was forgotten, so to speak, because it didn't involve great heroes.  The Lorien Elves and the Numenoreans would both refugees, in a manner of speaking, so they might not have been commemorated in song and tale.  Beren and Luthien's story became the stuff of legend, but perhaps there were other, less celebrated, unions of the two races. 

2.  Aragorn is a very skilfull politician in that he waits until the people will accept him.  As we said in the last chapter, Ioreth and Faramir might be the best ones to spread the word that the king has returned, so that would lead to a greater acceptance of him among the ordinary citizens.  He also doesn't want to seize power, but to accept it when the time is right for him to assume the reins of power.


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