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Nick: Narsil Anduril (Registered User)
Date/Time: Tue, 7/15/2003 at 18:46 EDT
Browser/OS: Microsoft Internet Explorer V6.0 using Windows 98
In Reply To: The Choices of Master Samwise #7:  The Great Debate  <notlost>  [7/15/2003 @ 18:19]  (12/30)
Subject:
A time in every Hobbit's life...
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I am going to discuss the "coming of age" for Sam, due to the fact that allthough I would discuss everything within the questions, I simply don't have the time!
I am reading the book again and in fact clearly remember Sam's discussion of the Elves to Frodo after meeting Gildor. I found it very pivitol; clearly, this is one of the first times Sam begins to think outside the Hobbit mentality. Several other times this occurs: the vistits to Lorien and Rivendell, and Sam's blunder and self-defense upon meeting Faramir. (These instances are off the top of my head, I'm sure those who have the book handy can recall more!) When Sam is in the presence of Elves, he is struck by their wonder and also their sarrow. "There's Elves and there's Elves", he tells Frodo, plainly in what can only be described as Sam Speech. I think that Sam's transformation becomes most evident in this chapter, yet throughout the book the metamorphisis is apparent. Sam, in the "Choices..." chapter, begins to vocalize how he feels, and articulately. Before, he merely stumbled through his feelings in limited speech. While assuming that he is truely void of his master, he begins to articulate more, and express his emotions with less restraint. (The "Great Elvish warrior" comes to mindl; he is not afraid of becoming bold.) Perhaps the absence of Frodo, if only for a brief time, allows Sam to rely on himself, rather than a "master."

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