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Nick: PhantomS (Registered User)
Date/Time: Mon, 6/30/2003 at 13:15 EDT (Mon, 6/30/2003 at 18:15 GB)
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In Reply To: Gandalf Jr.?  <Fisher>  [6/30/2003 @ 12:38]  (3/10)
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Just ask Melian
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But to have children, Maiar need a form that can give birth to children in the first place. Melian chose an elf-lady and thus gave birth to Luthien. Before meeting Thingol, she had no body whatsoever, so kids are well...impossible.

Osse and Uinen aside, I can't think o two Maiar that are paired by Tolkien in a male/female relationship, especially procreating. I think the point o having the Children was to populate Arda by reproduction-somehting the Ainur couldn't do.

gandalf is in a Human body, so technically he coould have kids. But that would be diverting from his task and Gandalf is only interested in two things- where his weed pipe is and how to defeat Sauron. One difference between Melian and Gandalf is that Gandalf was put into his form by wsomeone else= Manwe might have castrated the Five Wizards, for all we know. Saruman ordered his troops to burn, hack and kill- but not rape. Even the wizard gone bad doesn't want a bit of pokey...

There is but one task remaining in Arda-we,the Dragons of Valinor will make it happen.

Lone resident of the Republic of Gondor

PO-TA-TOE-S not PO -TAH-TOE-S!

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