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Nick: wajeff (Registered User)
Date/Time: Wed, 4/30/2003 at 22:01 EDT (Wed, 4/30/2003 at 19:01 PDT)
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In Reply To: The Voice of Saruman # 9:  Gibbets and Crows  <lumpkin>  [4/30/2003 @ 13:26]  (9/14)
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my thoughts...
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1) initially some were disappointed at their King, and most were just confused as others have suggested...i suspect the men quickly see it as a sign that Theoden has regained all his faculties and is indeed a worthy king.

2) I was fooled...briefly.  Perhaps Tolkien had in mind Chamberlain and "peace in our time" when he crafted this dialogue.

3) I think Grima has come to realize he backed the wrong horse as it were...Saruman is all but through, he ain't getting Eowyn, and his future isn't very bright.  The origins of Grima are murky...i suspect he was a counselor to the King but perhaps because of his physical appearance and/or lack of family status he felt he didn't get the respect and honors he deserved, so was easily seduced by Saruman's promises!

4) Saruman is losing control...and like a cornered animal strikes out in fits of rage.  It may also be a sign of his loss of "magical" abilities.

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