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Nick: lumpkin (Registered User)
Date/Time: Wed, 4/30/2003 at 13:25 EDT (Wed, 4/30/2003 at 12:25 CDT)
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The Voice of Saruman #8:  Theoden’s Response
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In the initial part of the parley with Saruman, after Saruman has made a fair greeting and (ironic) offer of aid and counsel , Theoden seems uncertain,

“Theoden opened his mouth as if to speak, but he said nothing.  He looked up at the face of Saruman with its dark solemn eyes bent down upon him, and then to Gandalf at his side; and he seemed to hesitate.  Gandalf made no sign; but stood silent as stone, as one waiting patiently for some call that has not yet come….There was a heavy silence.”

Gimli interrupts.  Saruman counters.  Then Eomer interrupts, reminding the king of the cruel deaths of Hama and Theodred.  And Saruman counters yet again.  All the while, Theoden remains silent.


1)  Theoden says he’s worried about his faltering feet, but of more concern is the potential for his mind to falter.  Does Theoden possess the strength of will to successfully confront Saruman alone? If Gandalf had not been there, would things have gone differently?  Was Gandalf actually doing anything to aid Theoden? 

I don’t have any other formal queries here, so I invite any other comments/points that you would like to make about Saruman’s words to Theoden.  However, I do find the dialog rich in irony and barely veiled hostility.  I would be interested in hearing about everyone’s favorite moments in this dialog…for ex:

-- Saruman makes many vituperative comments in this chapter. Unlike myself, he always seems to have the right  put-down at the tip of his tongue.   Our heroes get a few zingers in there too, though.  And the best verbal-slam award goes to……?

-- Likewise, Saruman’s cajoling and his diatribes are over-the-top with irony.  (Ex:   Saruman’s assertion, “Much have I desired to see you, mightiest of kings of western lands, and especially in these latter years, to save you from the unwise and evil counsels that beset you!”  being my favorite)    Any other favorite examples that illustrate to you the warped reasoning of our twisted wizard or that especially reveal the depths of his treachery?

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