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Nick: drogo_drogo (Registered User)
Date/Time: Tue, 4/15/2003 at 22:30 EDT (Tue, 4/15/2003 at 20:30 CST)
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In Reply To: TTT Book III: Chapter 8-- What's going on? Orc-slaying and The Glittering Caves  <Inferno>  [4/15/2003 @ 21:31]  (10/20)
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Book III, Chapter 8: What's going on?

Gandalf deflects several questions from the party about what is going on with Saruman.  Why is he being secretive about events in Isengard?

I feel that Gandalf is both being cautious because he knows firsthand that there's many dangers afoot in Isengard and being somewhat cagey because he himself isn't sure what's going on given the Ents' uprising.  He wants to find out what exactly has become of Saruman before he turns his attention to Gondor and Sauron.

Book III, Chapter 8: Orc-slaying competition, revisited

Why do you think Legolas and Gimli had a contest to see who could kill the most Orcs during the battle?  Did their attitudes about the contest change as it went on?  What effect did it have on them?

The contest seems to be a bonding ritual for the two.  Gimli, earnest Dwarf that he is, felt it was a matter of pride that he should have a larger body count, and Legolas I believe managed to find a way of turning that seriousness into something "lighthearted" (that's a poor choice of word for the goings on during a battle, but I hope everyone gets the drift).  Honestly, I think Legolas in the end undercounts the number of orcs he took out in order to let Gimli win!  But the two have managed to find a way to engage in friendly competition, and that cements the bond between them.

Book III, Chapter 8: The Glittering Caves

What does Gimli's description of the Glittering Caves reveal about him?  About the different ways in which Men and Dwarves approach the natural world?

Dwarves do love that stone, and Gimli's description of the caves softens his character and also gives him a way to build further bonds with Legolas.  The elf might appreciate the beauty in the living world more, but here they both sense that the other has an aesthetic sense, and an ability to connect to the natural world, albeit different forms of nature.  They're once again engaged in another contest, this one over whose nature is the more breathtaking.

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