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Nick: Atlas (Registered User)
Date/Time: Tue, 4/1/2003 at 4:12 EDT (Tue, 4/1/2003 at 0:12 PST)
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In Reply To: Book 2, Ch. 6 "The King of the Golden Hall" #3  <Morwen>  [3/31/2003 @ 19:56]  (7/24)
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Consider the lillies of the field
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Are Simbelmynė  purely a Tolkien invention, or are there real flowers that grow mostly on gravesites? ? Would the climate of Rohan really be warm enough for any flowers to bloom year-round? Does the fact that the flowers bloom year round have symbolic significance?

A. I'm not much for botany. I'll leave this to others more informed and inclined.

Five hundred years is really not a long time in Middle-earth, considering that the Last Alliance took place over 3,000 years before. The Rohirrim settled in Rohan, or Calenardhon, as it was known then, in 2510, well into the Third Age of Middle-earth, yet to the people of Rohan this is "lost in the midst of time" Why? What does this say about the Rohirrim?

A. As others have pointed out, for mortals of normal life-span 500 years is a very long time.

In Appendix A, II, The House of Eorl, Tolkien writes that the Rohirrim were in origin close kin to the Beornings and the men of the west-eaves of Mirkwood.  Do the Rohirrim and the Beornings still recognize that kinship at the time of the War of the Ring? Do any traditions or customs remain that are common to both?

A. Possibly, but without more information about the Beornings and the men of the West-Eaves one can't be certain.

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