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Nick: Ossė (Registered User)
Date/Time: Sat, 3/15/2003 at 13:31 EDT (Sat, 3/15/2003 at 17:31 GMT)
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In Reply To: His aid  <Calenia>  [3/15/2003 @ 13:12]  (1/4)
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Very true...
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As Olorin, Gandalf was able to do exactly that for the Elves (Sil - Valaquenta -"they did not know whence came the fair visions or the promptings of wisdom that he put into their hearts").
If Gandalf's mission had been to influence thoughts or put thoughts in the minds of others, there would have been no need for him to become a wizard.

But, as an Istar, he was sent by the Valar, reduced in power, more because the Valar feared causing fear among men or making a mess of the place, which normally happens when they get directly involved. And if you think about this quote from the Sil - Ainulindale,
"And some have said that the vision ceased ere the fulfilment of the Dominion of Men and the fading of the Firstborn; wherefore, though the Music is over all, the Valar have not seen as with sight the Later Ages or the ending of the World",
none of the Valar and Maiar (including Sauron, Gandalf, Saruman, etc) could not have been sure what was going to happen next...

It's important to remember, though, that if the Valar were to come to ME, Sauron would not stand a chance...

I agree with your other points...



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