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Nick: NZ Strider (Registered User)
Date/Time: Tue, 10/1/2002 at 17:07 EDT (Wed, 10/2/2002 at 10:07 NZDT)
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In Reply To: I object to  <Curious>  [10/1/2002 @ 16:43]  (1/4)
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Very quickly,
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O legally-minded one, I'd say part of the "[adumbration] from far back" is the Taming of Sméagol.  So we need not disagree there.  "Not unambiguous" is a highly ambiguous phrase!  It could mean "very clearly" if you take it as litotes (i.e. "not bad" for intended "very good").  But, never mind, I won't press that one... 
    As to your interpretation of the two parallel scenes (in the Taming and at Mt. Doom), I can't see how the Ring uses Frodo in the first unless we assume that any use of the Ring is really the Ring using the seeming user -- i.e. by positing what I'm trying to prove!  So, again, no disagreement between us necessarily; only I think the two scenes demonstrate that point instead of the point's underlying the first scene by nature as it were. 
     I'm using the Wagnerian tag merely as an aphoristic summation of an idea developed by Tolkien himself: I don't know any neater apophthegem.  It were no insuperable obstacle in any case to rephrase the entire argument so that the same point emerged without reference to Wagner's Ring cycle. 
     Now I really have to get to work!

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