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Date/Time: Mon, 9/30/2002 at 20:15 EDT (Mon, 9/30/2002 at 19:15 CDT)
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In Reply To: Answers/opinions needed on Frodo's use of the Ring: NZ_Strider: you commented on this once; others also welcome...  <mallorn-ws>  [9/30/2002 @ 19:51]  (7/58)
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...I tend to think Frodo never used the Ring to dominate Gollum; he didn't need to.  Gollum was already very much a slave to his need for the Ring, and Frodo happened to be the one who had it.  He won Gollum's help, to a point, through kindness and pity, not domination.  I believe Tolkien supports this in his letters (246, specifically):

"If [Sam] had understood better what was going on between Frodo and Gollum, things might have turned out differently in the end.  For me perhaps the most tragic moment in the Tale comes in [TTT} when Sam fails to note the complete change in Gollum's tone and aspect.  'Nothing, nothing,' said Gollum softly.  'Nice master!'  His repentance is blighted and all Frodo's pity (in a sense) wasted  (in the sense that 'pity' to be a true virtue must be directed to the good of its object).  Shelob's lair became inevitable.

"This is due of course to the 'logic of the story.'  Sam could hardly have acted differently...  If he had, what could then have happened?  The course of the entry into Mordor and the struggle to reach Mount Doom would have been different, and so would the ending.  The interest would have shifted to Gollum, I think, and the battle that would have gone on between his repentance and his new love on one side and the Ring.  Though the love would have been strengthened daily it could not have wrested the mastery from the Ring.  I think that in some queer twisted and pitiable way Gollum would have tried (not maybe with conscious design) to satisfy both.  Certainly at some point not long before the end he would have stolen the Ring or taken it by violence (as he does in the actual Tale).  But 'possession' satisfied, I think he would then have sacrificed himself for Frodo's sake and have voluntarily cast himself into the fiery abyss..."

"Frodo had become a considerable person [by the time of events in 'Mount Doom'], but of a special kind:  in spiritual enlargement rather than in increase of physical or mental power; his will was much stronger than it had been, but so far it had been exercised in resisting, not using, the Ring and with the object of destroying it.  He needed time, much time, before he could control the Ring or (which in such a case is the same) before it could control him; before his will and arrogance could grow to a stature in which he could dominate other major hostile wills."

These comments of Tolkien's pretty much sum up much of what I have always felt about Frodo and the Ring.  It was not until the very end, when he had reached the limits of all his strength, that he finally gave in to it, and to its promise of power.  It was, I think, very important to the thematic development of the story (as well as Frodo) that he NOT use the Ring in any way, especially not in controlling another person, for Tolkien often makes clear the point that ends do not justify the means.  If Frodo had used the Ring, he would have been using the means of the Enemy to force Gollum's will to his bidding (a Mortal Sin in Tolkien's mythos), and would have ultimately been no better than the Enemy.  That he resisted the Ring to the last and not once actually used it with the intent of tapping its power for his own purposes is, I suspect, part of why he was ultimately spared.  In the end, the pity of Bilbo, and Frodo, and Sam ruled the lives of many.  Not their use of the Ring, however seemingly small.

IMHO, as always.


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