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Nick: Curious (Registered User)
Date/Time: Sun, 6/30/2002 at 15:00 EDT (Sun, 6/30/2002 at 13:00 CST)
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In Reply To: the race of ent  <Balletrusse>  [6/30/2002 @ 13:53]  (2/5)
Subject:
In his letters Tolkien speculated
Message:

. . . that the entwives were indeed wiped out, but in LotR he hints that some may have lived near the Shire.  You don't hear more about them because they were a late addition to his mythology, invented during the time he wrote LotR.  If you want to see how they were invented read the History of LotR, showing previous drafts of the work. 
                    
Otherwise Tolkien left their fate open to speculation, although Galadirel apparently believed she and Treebeard would meet again in Arda Remade, after the last battle.  You can read more about Arda Remade in Morgoth's Ring, if you are into theology.

Tolkien was pretty fuzzy about the origin of the ents, too.  Are they Maiar like Melian, or quasi-Children of Iluvatar like the dwarves, or other spirits of some kind?  No one really knows.

One intriguing point about their history: after the War of Wrath the entwives moved east of the Anduin and showed men how to farm.  Yet where are the men they taught?  Just north of their lands is the spot where hobbits were first noticed.  Hobbits and entwives share a love of tilled land; could it be that entwives showed hobbits how to farm?  And perhaps followed them on their migration?  I like to believe that they did, and I think perhaps when he was in a pleasant mood Tolkien may have as well.  But as I said, in his letters there is evidence to the contrary.

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"‘Oh, I don't know,' said Atkins, who was nobody of importance, just a schoolmaster.  ‘I am not so sure: it depends on what you mean by use .'

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