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Nick: Curious (Registered User)
Date/Time: Sat, 6/1/2002 at 12:28 EDT (Sat, 6/1/2002 at 10:28 CST)
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In Reply To: Thank you for your eloquent enlightenment! I also.....  <woodsnake>  [6/1/2002 @ 12:10]  (2/15)
Subject:
Good points.  I had forgotten about Frodo's
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. . . diplomatic skills with Saruman, but I believe you are right on.  And the diplomatic skills of Aragorn distinguish him from the conventional hero, and from the heroes of Tolkien's legends, Beren, Tuor, and Turin.  (Beren fails as a diplomat but succeeds as a lover, Tuor's diplomacy is dictated by Ulmo, and Turin negotiates by killing people then offering himself as a replacement!)  Remember also Aragorn's brilliance in the Council of Elrond, as highlighted in one of NZStrider's earlier posts.

And on a larger scale, Tolkien rarely described any conventional fighting in LotR, but described many, many conversations, both friendly and unfriendly.  It seems to me this reflects Tolkien's own life, where he seems to have enjoyed nothing more than long conversations with the Inklings, long letters to and from friends, and long conversations with himself (a habit of the wise!) memorialized in the many volumes of writings saved but not published during his lifetime.

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"‘I think he was a silly little man,' said Councillor Tompkins.  ‘Worthless, in fact; no use to Society at all.'

"‘Oh, I don't know,' said Atkins, who was nobody of importance, just a schoolmaster.  ‘I am not so sure: it depends on what you mean by use .'

"‘No practical or economic use,' said Tompkins.  . . .

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"‘It is proving very useful indeed,' said the Second Voice.  ‘As a holiday, and a refreshment.  It is splendid for convalescence; and not only for that, for many it is the best introduction to the Mountains.  It works wonders in some cases.  I am sending more and more there.  They seldom have to come back.'"

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